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What unique ideas do you use for evangelism?
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Everready It's probably not unique, but set up a free sitters service at the church for people to use to go Christmas shopping. Make sure that the people are qualified to watch the children. After offering the free service, invite them to any special Christmas programs and to Sunday School and church.
Mark Greveson "Acts of Kindness" restoring the vertical relationship with the neighbour in your community. For years we've been concerned simply with the vertical relationship with God and left aside our neighbour, except for giving them the gospel (that's a good thing). The church here has developed a ministry that proves effective in reaching our local community. We currently have about 400 non-Christian contacts who are visited by church members, phoned, and have letters written to them. When we have an event that will present the gospel we can invite many of them who will gladly come, it's refreshing to have more non-Christians at a meeting than members of the church. How is it done??? We have a team of visiting workers plus many others in the church who take part in "Dial a Friend." Basically we advertise the fact that we will visit anyone in the community to serve them with friendship, gardening, money advice, help getting out and shopping, and anything we can do to help. People are amazed and refer to us as "those Christians that care." People phone our telephone line and ask for help. We have taken three-legged dogs to the vet, mowed gardens for the disabled and elderly, sat and talked with the lonely, help moved women suffering domestic violence, delivered food parcels, and most of all we attempt on every occasion to pray for people. The amazing thing is when you ask if you can pray with them they are really keen to be prayed for. More often than not they will ask why you do this for them and your opportunity to share the gospel is tremendous. On Easter weekend the team gave out free easter eggs in the highstreet to shoppers. We will do all we can to be "zealous for good works" and the community including its many statutory bodies identify the church as the church the believes that "People are Important." It's simply about loving your neighbour in practical ways that demonsrate the love and compassion of God.
Everready I'm looking for resources for Baby Dedications. I'd like to improve what we are currently doing. If anyone knows of any resources that are out there, I'd appreciate the information. THANKS!
oldcodger Try http://www.bible.org
- on left column click on pastor resources. This is a site full of
stuff - much of it from Dallas Seminary men - Bible studies, etc.
jun Trying to locate Pastor's Helpers and Pastor's Pointers, two great sermon sites. Can you help? Thanks.
Rock Dove Publications We found the Pastor's Pointers page at http://www.mumac.org/mnumspd.html, but we have not located Pastor's Helper at this time.
oldcodger Pastor's
Helper is now at: http://members.xoom.com/Barry/.
F. Tembo What advantages do pastors who have been to full-time Bible school have over those who have done extensional studies?
B. Hurley I am a product of extensional studies. I believe I received a very good education in that manner. However, what I missed was the face-to-face interaction with my professors. Letters and email were alright, but the personal touch was missing. There is something in the one-to-one situation that can never be had in extension. Additionally, there is the lack of a network of fellow students (male and female) with which to communicate. The first time I met any of my "classmates" was at graduation. It was also the last time. There is just not time to develop personal relationships at those events. Since I am an Independent Baptist, I sometimes feel like an "isolated" Baptist without the network of friends in the ministry from school to call upon. I realize this is the negative of your question, but I believe you can see my point.
oldcodger Been
there - done both. Actually I feel there is little difference in
the education. Extension is demanding as you need to be self-motivated.
You will get out of it what you put into it. I like the classroom
situation best, for the dynamic of input from a number of sources, though
I understand some of the extension schools are overcoming this via email
and confernences. The only draw back to me is the fact that the extension
degree does not seem to have the status of a regular degree in SOME
peoples eyes. This
has changed over the last few years as more seminaries have gotten into
the program. All in all I see little difference - I worked like mad
in both systems because I like to study. Extension is the only alternative
for many people so is an effective way to go. JUST A THOUGHT TO B.
Hurley: Just a thought. If you have any Independent Fundamental
Church churches in your area, some of their regionals allow other pastors
to come for fellowship. They are an Independent Bible group of churches.
Also I think some of the other groups allow for pastors of other groups
to come to their meetings for fellowship and you can build some relationships
that way. I personally have had zippo contact with my class mates anyway.
In His Service, oldcodger.
Mark W. Franks I am searching for online pastors willing to minister via e-mail to those surfers that enter my website and would like ministerial contact. Please, only qualified, recognized, and certified. This is a serious work for the servants of God to help a desperate world with the knowledge of Jesus Christ. My website avoids commercialism entirely and is structured as a tool for finding answers and inspiration. Please contact me for more information (christnet1@aol.com). Thank you.
Thaddeus Irvine I am responding
to Mark W Franks' entry. I would be more than happy to support an on-line
pastoral service for those who feel they could make use of it. I live in
Northern Ireland and I'm trained in Divinity, Pastoral Counselling &
Psychiatry. My qualifications cover a Doctorate in Christian Apologetics,
one in Comparative Theology and a third in Clinical & Pastoral Counselling.
Much of my pastoral work is in post-abortion and trauma counselling, suicide
and severe depression among both Christians and non-Christians. We also
offer apologetic and counselling support to pastors, elders, deacons. No
questions are asked, and people can give as much or as little information
as they feel comfortable with. We are supported by donations and free-will
offerings, but our pastoral care is all free. Please feel free to contact
us for any reason. If anyone knows of any place which offers training materials
or educational course for people like ourselves, we would be very thankful
if you would pass the information onto us, or pass our details onto them.
Joshua I am starting a new church in Arizona. What methods of advertisement work best? Direct mail? Newspaper display ads? Bus stop bench signs? Billboards? Yellow Pages? I need examples. Thanks. In Christ.
Jeremiah Joshua, I just wanted to tell you that I am in Arizona also planting a new independent church. I am in Prescott. I am a native of Az from the Phoenix metro area. I have done the kind of outreach propoganda you are asking about and would like to talk with you at length about it. The most successful of them all is personal contact. Second best is word of mouth. All else is speculative but many times effective. It strongly depends on your target group. Please email me [Rock Dove will forward any messages]. I look forward to hearing from you.
Kelley My husband (He is the Pastor) & I stepped out on Faith back in February of this year to begin a ministry. Here are a few of the things that we did as well as some tips from a friend of mine that is starting a church of his own. We sent out flyers, notified local radio, local newspapers, Contacted all of our friends (especially those seeking a church) and prayed. My friend also started a bible study from his home on a weekly basis to begin to build his member ship that way. If you want, i have a packet of info on starting a new church. It is all good information.
James I recently graduated from a Baptist seminary and am looking for a full-time pastoral position. One of the problems I am running into is that I have been trained in dispensational, pretribulational schools, but through my studies, I have come to a post-tribulational position. The churches with which I have fellowshipped will not accept a post-tribber. Does anyone know of an association of pastors/churches that is fundamental/evangelical, conservative and doctrinally sound but will accept someone with a post-trib position?
DL I am a part of a
denomination that has enough latitude in that area. But we are geographically
challenged in that, we do not have a presence coast to coast. We are planting
some new works that could yield some possibilities. We are Cumberland Presbyterians
that hold to a modified Westminister
confession of faith, meaning
we are not the five point calvinist as other Presbyterians. I don't know
exactly what you are looking for this may give some hope in your theological
journey.
Teresa I was raised in a SBC church, and left it after 30 years. One of the reasons was the pre trib issue. I am currently serving in a cumberland presbyterian church and enjoying it very much. If you need to find a denomonation that holds to a similar doctrinal position on the basics, the the CP's will be the one for you. They do ordain women, however. If that is a problem for you, then, you may not enjoy the CP church. In Christ, Teresa
kid If it is
any consolation I am none of the above when it comes to Pre-, Mid-, or
Post-Trib. I believe in the Pan-Trib theory. Which says that
if we but our total faith and being in following the will of God for our
life that it will all "pan out" in the time of the tribulation.
My bible tells me that Jesus will "never leave or forsake us" so regardless
of when the tribulation comes or when the Second Coming happens we need
to worry about taking as many people with us. Literally, we need
to stop argueing over the tribulation among other things and start to concentrate
more on the fact that we have a world in which morallity changes and people
are looking for an answer to questions in their life. The answer
is Jesus Christ. It
should be noted that I am
a Southern Baptist Pastor in a very conservative, fundamental church.
Now that is said. First, have you prayed and then prayed again
were God want to send you. Are you listening? Second, if you
feel that your position is correct and that God has led you to that
understanding then also remember that he will lead you to the perfect church
to serve in for your gifts and talents. Finally, don't jump
boat unless you feel that is what God is calling you to do. Do NOT
change just because it will be easier to get a job in another denomination.
There are no denominations in heaven. Hope this helps, by the way
I will pray for you James and that you find the church you are needed to
serve in that you will be drawn by the Holy Spirit together.
Mac This is a big question for many mainline churches. I've seen a lot of mistakes in this area, mostly because things are just sort of decided then performed with no preparation for the worshippers. I'd suggest educating the congregation (and the two factions...there are usually two) to the value and limitations of both traditional worship styles and newer praise-based contemporary forms. Teaching younger members the value of the traditional hymns, particularly the depth of theology, should be done like teaching poetry. There is a depth there waiting to be discovered if younger members can get past the form. For older or more traditional members, instruction in a more "incarnational theology" which seeks to go to others might help. And a little challenge to be open to experiencing God's presence through simpler praise music. If that doesn't help, then a historical overview of the origin of their beloved hymns will reveal that they were once the contemporary (and often beer-hall) music of their time. Above all, remind them of Kierkegaard's point that they are not the audience, and the choir/pastor the performers. God is the audience and they are the performers. What pleases God? Not very practical, I guess, but imagine students who had been taught the theology of "A Mighty Fortress is our God." And imagine more traditional members seeing participation in newer forms as a meaningful sacrifice to communicate to new generations.
oldcodger Steve: You said: I am convinced I am in the will of God as we make the changes necessary to reach a lost and dying world for Jesus Christ. Just a question. Where in the Word is it stated that we are to reach the lost in the church worship service? Seems that should be the result of the congregation leading people to the Lord outside the church. To get to your question: I think if you are going to do it you are on the right track - slow and steady. I have seen this issue cause real turmoil in congregations. Those that are vocal against the concept might well have a point - You might want to meet with them and see if you can find what the objections are - maybe you can overcome them. Actually as I have viewed the results in a number of churches there is little change in attendence unless it is losing older and gaining younger. Overal growth is quite often flat. I have heard the same from others as well. The key to church growth and evangelism is a witnessing congregation and a church that is a training center for new converts. One man's opinion. In His Service, oldcodger.
KS Steve,
I am the Worship Leader in a small church that is growing, partly due to
the worship format. This is not drawing in the unsaved but is bringing
in Christians who want more Worship with a contemperary flair. We
are seeing those leading the lost to Christ. We have successfully changed
to blended music without loosing to many. The older generation are
actually enjoying the music, often requesting a Scripture song during singspirations.
The first problem we ran into was inadequate musical talent to play the
non-hymn music. We decided to use background music for those songs.
(Split track.) Our service begins with the new contempory music and
concludes with hymns played by the piano and
organ. (All incorporated
into a theme.) I found that including some of the old chorus' such
as Everyday with Jesus, Everybody Ought to Know and Give Me Oil in My Lamp
has helped the older ones to realize that they once had chorus' too. I
also only incorporated a new song every six weeks so as not to overwhelm.
Having someone sing a chorus as a special for the first time also helps
to focus on the words. One of the issues we ran into was the overhead,
ie: unable to see it. I do song sheets for those who can't read the
"wall". Also one complaint was singing the song more than once. Some tapes
repeat four or five times. First I pointed out that we sing the chorus
to hymns usually three times, at least.
Then, when I play those
extra repeated songs I sing while they shake hands, pray silently, or I
have Scripture read during that time. Just a word of encouragement.
It gets easier as time goes on and if you are being led by the Lord to
do this, you know it will work out in the end. If you have specific
snags you are running into write again and I'll try to address them.
I've probably "been there done that." The Lord bless.
ggh I know a pastor, Rev. Richard Peik, of Madison, Wisconsin. He has MS and has been wheel-chair bound for quite some time. His handicap does not seem to have bothered at all. If anything, he found the congregation much more supportive. The sad thing is, of course, the disease is taking away his ability to pastor. But the wheel-chair was not the problem. He commuted each Sunday from his home in Madison to the Wisconsin Dells, about 50 miles away. I hope this is of some help.
Harris I know a handicapped
pastor who is in his late 50's, early 60's who pioneered a church in Arkansas.
Mr. Pastor Here
is something the Lord gave me one day while preaching to a congregation
about reaching the community around their church. Send the people
out door to door telling everyone they meet that they just wanted to leave
them an emergency telephone number that they could add to their list of
emergency numbers. The number they would give them would be the number
that would help them in a LIFE crisis (spiritual dilema or just problems
to hard to solve). This would open the door for prayer and when the
prayer is answered it would bring the excitment that might lead them to
come to
service.
Steffan Hi,
I was curious about the "Petition of Love" you mentioned. Would you
mind sharing more about this petition? Thanks!
Rock Dove Publications
We have different sites listed on our Christian Job
Links page.
oldcodger I
have had a site of my own for two years and just figured out yesterday
that I have had visits from over 85 different countries. I have a
gospel tract on site with topical studies, a theology and missions book.
I have visits from Catholic schools, secular schools, military etc.
I don't know what all the visiters are reading, but God's Word is touching
6-10,000 lives per month. I don't say any of this for brag - more
from shock that God has allowed me such a wide ministry. He is using
the net to touch people I could never help. I had a woman on the
east coast request permission to copy some of the
files for her church members
- she is going to put them in the church entry with the pastors sermon
notes - she is in a United Methodist church. There is a cyber
church, not sure I buy that as yet, but the man is attempting to set up
training for believers/new believers online. There has been a man
post on Goshen.net boards mentioning he was starting cyber church for shut
ins etc. I don't remember which boards - I visit Bible study, pastors,
missionaries and theology board - it was on a couple of them. I do
a lot of surfing of Christian spots. Great Church history pages of
the Church fathers and preachers are available. Many many electronic
books available now. Many of the current preachers have sermons online
for study. Suspicious of the net? I'll bet the don't trust
grandma either. Encourage these students to open their eyes
to what God is doing on the net. Evangelism is going on, teaching
is going on, I believe God is working. You can't broadcast the gospel
into Israel, but you can put anything on the
net and Isrealies can come
and read! Other closed countries are still open to the internet -
and what's more, I doubt that this medium can be cut off! My opinion anyway.In
His Service,oldcodger
DK Art, I can relate to your dilemma. As a pastor myself, my wife and I have discussed this issue many times and have finally reached a decision. We both feel that although I am the pastor/leader, we are a team. My wife is my partner in life and ministry and therefore deserves to be informed. Granted there will be times when she is asked direct questions regarding confidential situations to which she is privied. In these cases, she knows that she must simply respond in all honesty and sensitivity, that she is not in a position to discuss the matter. If there are those who refuse to respect that, then they need to be lovingly confronted and reminded that by respecting other's privacy, they honor their brethren as Christ would have us do. I hope this does not come across as an easy answer, but it works for my wife and I and I hope it offers at least some help to you.
kid Art, I have
to agree with DK. But I also understand your feeling. I have
decided that God planned for me to marry my wife for a purose. One
of those is to make us a team as you have said. But also my
wife has been able to provide
some interesting insight that I just overlooked. So on those times
I need to share with my wife she understands that it goes not further than
her and I. She doesn't discuss with any
family, friends, or church
members. Those times that I feel unable to share with her the details
of the situation I give her a very boad topic of what it is about so she
can pray for the person(s)involved and myself to know how to proceed.
We are in our first full time pastorate and this method has worked, to
my knowledge, flawlessly for the 6 years we have known each other ( 2 dating/engaged
4 married). Its important for you and your spouse to remember that
people are looking for answers to questions that they have or to problems
they have and have turned to you for guidance. No matter what method
you decide to use, be sure that you do not do anything to betray a trust
that has been granted to you. Many times once you do that it is nearly
impossible to regain any level of trust. Hang in there. My
wife and I will pray for you.
Ann Check out www.christianrecovery.com. It is a great resource.
christos Try
www.christosministries.org. The website is still under construction,
but the organization is really excellent for support to clergy and their
families. Direct services available in Wisconsin. Coaching
by phone (888-879-3000) or e-mail from the site.
Mary 4/14/99 I am one too. It's a very lonely, confusing place. Wish I had answers but I have more questions than answers.
Displaced Pastors' Wife 4/16/99 Although I don't know you I promise I will pray for you and with you. Maybe someday God will give us an answer to our dilema. Keep your spirit up if at all possible. The one thing I do know is that He sees us, and He has a plan for us, even without our husbands. God Bless and Keep you is my prayer.
Mary Yes, I know you are right that God loves us. I'm so grateful for Him. I will pray for you also. I'm sorting through a lot in my mind about what I really believe and what I always believed because my husband said it. I'm glad that God is very patient with me.
Displaced Pastor's Wife Mary, I know that my calling is not in vain, as well as yours. Because our husbands drop the mantle, does not mean we will or that we have to. It is a closer relationship with Christ that answers all questions. And I know it is not an easy thing to say at this point. But I know that I am a minister and that I must fulfull what I was put here for. I wish I could meet you and let you know that I understand your situation. He is in the midst of all this and you will see His hand move if you truly desire it. One very important thing to remember, Gods' hand is upon your life and He is going to bring healing and restoration to you. I know, He did and is still doing it for me. Keep your spirt up and look up to the author and finisher of your faith. He believes in you and so do I. A sister in the same boat, with much love and prayers.
Mary Yes I know God is bringing a lot of healing into my life. The thing that has been hard for me to get past is that I have a lot of confusion about God. My husband was very abusive and he used God and the Bible to control people, especially me. It's hard sometimes for me to sort through all of that. However, I never understood before how much grace God has for me. I have been learning that since I have been out of the situation.
Displaced Pastor's Wife
I
was also confused about God at first. My husband was also abusive,
and used the Word to control me. Any failure on his part was always
thrown back on me. Of course he never realized it was his own insecurities
and wanting to be accepted by others, even though it was at
the expense of his wife
and children. Somewhere down the line, whether it waas from his own
insecurities, inabilities, whatever, he lost sight of God. His focus
became dulled and he fell from the faith. But the true test of time,
let's us all know what wer'e made of and where our passions truly lie,
and whether or not Christ is #1 IN OUR LIVES. YOU KNOW WOMEN ARE SUPPOSEDLY
THE "WEAKER SEX", but through time, prayer and counseling, I'm making it.
"I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME'. When you pray,
be precise with God, tell Him of your confusion and pain. He will
hear you and He Will Answer. I am thoroughly convinced,we, as well
as all ministers and their wives/husbands,should stand together and support
each other during times such as these. Prayers and Blessings
go out to you my sister.
sadusee I know
your pain first hand and it is still fresh. I watched my beloved husband
self distruct and I felt so helpless to comunicate with him. I to was blamed
for his failures. I didn,t see my own faults untill the backside of the
desert exsperience. 4 years waiting for a spouce to return to the Lord
and to you can do alot to clear ones vision. He was verbally abusive
and very neglectful but what I learned was our own shortcomings are more
painful than anything anyone else can do to us. We woman have a tendancy
to seek our selfworth from our mates God is the only one that can validate
us. We missunderstand our porpose I pray for your recovery as I pray for
my own. When my mate left me I cried out to God to be my mate and fill
my needs. I even told him I want ed candy flowers dinners, the whole works.
People started coming out of the woodwork to minister to me. I recieved
a dozen red roses from my son-inlaws family, cand flowers etc. One
night while lying in bed crying I wispered a prayer Lord I just need
to hear you say I love you. The phone rang. My daughter said I just called
to say I love you and hung up then two more friends from church called
to say I love you and hung up I took those words as coming straight from
the heart of God. He has said that the arm of flesh will fail us
but He never will. He has kept a roo roof over my head and met my needs.
He will meet your to. Another thing I,ve learned is that pain is
a gift. So oft I fumed and freted and greived or treatment sore but I exspect
to see how needlessly ,twas blessings God did pour. He used a rough
rock tool to help him shapeth me. I trust at last my fumings past for now
at last i see blessings come in diderent giuses,and hurtful things may
hold suprises. If we stand each trial and test we will find our father
knoweth best , as He sands and chips away our self and pride to shape a
christ like soul inside
oldcodger Well,
hate to be smart, but the Bible is a good place aside from that a glass
door for your office - maybe a lady of the church within the church near
enought to see but not to listen when counceling. Many problems seem
to arise in counceling or when pastor is alone with a female. I've
seen some very conservative, smart men get very stupid when they are given
opportunity. Pastor's Spouse In
response to the Caregivers Conference and the need for someone to address
the topic; I am a wife who has been through the 'fire' and I have
not only gained victory through it, but I have gained self-confidence in
myself and new confidence in what the Lord can do. It is important
the the 'Pastors' wife be encouraged and strengthened as much as the Pastor
himself. It took a long time to get to this point, but in the final
outcome it is still true, 'THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE". One cannot
A Friend in the Pastorate
My
question to you is who is running the show there? Sounds like too
many chiefs and not enough indians to me. Without sounding cold and
critical, if you feel to hire someone else. Do So! Your ministry
should not be ran by the will of the people! What is the Lord speaking
to your heart? When the people speak louder than the Will you have
trouble. By all means get a full-time secretary and let your present
secretary know that you have no hard feelings against her. Let me
warn
Facts First Check
out who your secretary reports to - was it the Board who hired her or the
former pastor? If they hired her, it is their responsibility to fire
her or to deal with the problem.
oldcodger Check
with your carpet company and see if they can tell you what colors fail
to show dirt the best. There is a lot of difference. Then check
with your people.
oldcodger I
have wondered myself about the nursing home thing - I have never done it
and often thought of what I could ever have to say to those folks.
I think, just preach the Word and allow the Lord to use what He leads you
to. One thing to remember that people forget a lot of what they hear
and in this age group even quicker. They most likely will enjoy the
very fact that you show up and show an interest in them. As the the
we've never done it that way before virus - again, I think just keep preaching
the word and allow the Spirit to move in the people. It may take
a long time, but God called you there and they are your sheep to lead -
you just need to lead a little slower than you probablyl like. Try
to encourage them to do the simple things in the church and they may find
they enjoy it. Ask them to be greeters at the door etc. It
may be that the Lord has some younger folks coming your way in the future
that he
david Just an
update on VBS. We had an outstanding VBS for our Church. We
averaged 48 children in attendance. The best part was we had 14 professions
of Faith (Salvations) from the children who attended the VBS and 3 from
the mission team the came as workers for VBS. Thank
you for you Prayers. I believe that God answered them extraordinarly
well. We have Revival Services starting September 26-29 please continue
to pray for these services. To God be the Glory.
Donell I know
that support is a great blessing in the pastorate. Especially for
those of us who have young children in the home. My husband and I
have been pastoring for about 10 years and we have 4 children 9,6,3,6 mths.
I would love to get to know you and be a support as well as receive support.
Feel free to get my email address from rockdove. Blessings to you
and your family.
kid Aaron, the
change that you want to implement; do you strongly believe it is a directive
from God? If it is then go for God has an awsome way that he provides
for us when we simply obey what he wants us to do. Make sure
tough it is God's plans and not Aarron's. Change is always difficult
however necessary. Hang in there.
Pastor Nathaneal I
found it very helpful not to focus on church growth, but to focus on chruch
health. There is a very good book written by Pastor Rick Warren called
the Purpose Driven Church. He gives some very positive feedback about
church development. Although we must rely on God and God's timing.
Remember, It is the Lord that builds the church not us or our programs.
If you know you are called from the Lord, and you are preaching His world
in spirit and in truth, He will glorify His name. We started in our
living room approximatley 5 years ago, we now rent space that can hold
35 people, and we are already looking for bigger accomodations for about
200+. It may not sound like much, but it is a joy
anonymous Do
you really think this secretary should continue to be your secretary?
I'd imagine there would be great strain between your wife and secretary
if you are still spending over 8 hours a day with your secretary.
You've been tempted and have already fallen in this area. Isn't this setting
yourself up to fall again? Your wife may forgive you and probably
knows that now you mean business with God, but she has to grow to trust
you again. It would help if you would seriously avoid all appearances
of evil. Have you sought counseling for your marriage?
in turmoil When
I read the article from Pastor who wrote for advice concerning an affair
he'd had with his secretary that no one else knows about but his wife,
I felt a stabbing pain in my chest area. I am not a pastor but a pastor's
wife who feels like I've got to do something drastic like leave if I can't
be sure that nothing is going on. I discovered not too long ago my husband
has been contacting his secretary 10-11 times a day from early in the morning
to late at night. Even though many of the attempts appear to be pages
or 1 or 2 minute calls where he perhaps leaves a message, I wonder why
he has been calling so much. I recently found out that this has been
going on for at least 2 or 3 years, if not more. We have talked about
it, yelled about it, and I have cried about it. He assures me that these
attempts were usually business calls, even though he did say that she was
having some serious family problems for a while. I have tried so
hard to believe him because I love my husband and want to believe that
he would not be crazy enough to risk our marriage with doing something
detrimental to it, and yet I can't seem to be able to rationalize that
many contacts (sometimes there were more than 11 a day) for business since
our congregation is under 300 people. I am looking to the Lord for
guidance and I feel I will have to talk to someone in a spiritual marital
advisory capacity as soon as possible because I am not naive enough to
think that all of this was business and personal problems.
I think she obviously developed a special place in his heart and he perhaps
hates to admit it. Pray for us and pray that the Lord will strenghten
me because I feel like I need to get away for awhile from these painful
thoughts and from my husband's presence. He is compassionate,
a wonderful leader and pastor, and yet, I don't feel I can handle what
thougts my mind has been continually entertaining lately.
Paul in Duluth If
you're still looking for information regarding "caring for pastors and
their families", the Sutera Brothers (Ralph and Lou, an evangelist team
of twin brothers) have developed some excellent and most practical resources.
You should also find some information about their ministries on the Web.
The Sutera's conducted a series of educational workshops in the Duluth,
MN - Superior, WI community in October 2000.
Blessed I must
first say I am a Pastor's Wife and was reading the posts as I find it a
good place for ministry resources. Forgive me if my reply is offensive
because you were looking for a pastor's perspective. I wanted to
reply because I think you may need some female insight. Not sure
if you're married, but this woman may be attracted to you. She may
feel she's overdone it because she's recognizing her feelings or the Lord
is convicting her. Respond in a way that tells her you respect her
convictions and will not be offended if she chooses not to email any longer.
That may be difficult for you since she's usually encouraging, but probably
best for her.
Rock Dove Publications reserves the right to reject any submission.
David Well, Bill and oldcodger, I disagree with
the idea that pastors need such "preventative measures". For the problem is not the pastor being alone with a female or even
the temptation or attraction toward the female (or vice versa). Rather, it is the pastor's own moral failure, and he cannot use his
being human/weak as an excuse for it; he failed to obey God to resist the temptation, and he should have heeded the Apostle
Paul's warning to watch himself closely during the counseling session, that is, come to the session spiritually prepared (e.g.,
putting on the armor of God) and during the session, remain alert to his surroundings and to his own feelings and responses and
motives (Gal. 6:1b, Eph. 6:10-18). He can even bear as much temptation as his maturity level and unique experience with it
allows. If the temptation becomes unbearable, he can either pray to God for divine intervention or abruptly end the session and
flee. Then, depending on his convictions and on the counselee, he will schedule the next session with the same counselee; by
then the passions should have cooled considerably. If the problem crops up or doesn't go away, then it might be advisable for
the pastor to keep away from the source of the temptation, i.e., the counselee, for the time being. . . . Why or how do you think the recent scandals in the
Catholic Church happened? So those restrictions or so-called preventative measures are ineffective and unnecessary and,
more importantly, they do interfere with the pastor's spiritual growth (and that of his counselee, for that matter) and with his
own relationship with God (see Colossians 2:20-23).
Rodbob PastorCare
of Arkansas, affiliated with the National Clery Support Network, will be
holding a Caregivers Conference in late June. I am seeking a pastor's spouse
(female, sorry for the 'traditional' role) to address the topic, "The special
needs of a pastor's spouse", at our conference. If you have been through
the 'fire', and emerged wiser and willing to share, please contact me.
Thanks
make it without the other.
Prayer and communication are the real key. When the wife is accepted as
an intregal part of the ministry then is when the true Pastoring begins.
I would love to share with you. I was through the fire, but I am
not burned. Thank God!
ml Anyone out
there no of a 'pastoral opening' in a church which is needing an experienced
and gently charismatic evangelical Pastor. I am an English man married
to a Californian. We are currently serving a very
conservative and culturally 'narrow' group of German russians. Good
people but not at all 'open'.We are also considering a travelling ministry.
Any ideas...We have moved from A large metroplex to a small town. We consider
this an interim measure Any suggestions?
Pastor Lee Hi,
I have been pastoring for a year now in the same church that I was the
youth pastor for a year and a half. Our attendance has tremendously
increased and we are in the middle of a massive bdlg. prgrm. My wife and
I have the support of the people but I have a sec. who has been part
time for a very long time infact about ten years....... She has a
way of doing her own thing and going through certain deacons to get whatshe
wants done. She has in her haed that eventually she will be fulltime.
She has been given a salary increase over the years that equals to fifteen
dollars an hour. There are no set office hrs. due to her full time
job. I would like to bring this to a stop and require office hours
during the wk. and then when possible higher someone full time. This
is somewhat a dif. situation. If I replace her I know it would cause
a rift raft within the church and I do not want this in the middle of a
bldg prgrm. Any advice from some seasoned ministers?
you,you cannot always do
what seems right in the people's sight. It is God that counts. Do
what the Lord lays on your heart. If the people cannot follow the
Lord in you, then they are the one with the problems. I will pray
with you and for you. God Bless and Keep you is my prayer.
Building Hello,
Ineed some advice from exp. pastors who have been through building programs.
I am a young pastor who is leading a church through a bldg. project.
We are going from a 6,000 sq. to a 13,000 sq. bldg. My question
today is concerning to dec. of what color of carpet to pick. Tell
me if this is a wise dec. I thought that I would select four women
with a ballance of the diff. age groups. Give them the coloe swatches
of pews and carpets and let them decide and just go with it.
kid 7/7/99 Perhaps
this is an old question that has been "worn out"; but, as a first time
fulltime pastor. I work in a small town church were the average age
is somewhere around 55 to 60 (seriously no exaggeration) that had been
without a pastor for almost 3 years. I mean they had an interm. Any
way, The church declined from 75-90 in attendance for morning worship to
20-30 now. The church member say they want to grow to reach the lost
and make an eternal difference. BUT, when the time comes to go and
visit or evangelize no one shows up. They want me to do all the visiting
and get upset when I don't visit someone in the hospital even though I
wasn't told they were in the hospital. Also, the last pastor they
had seems to have been a very dynamic person, I am always hearing "Bro.
Ed always did it this way." Which leads to the next question,
What are some effective ways to combat the "We've always done it this way"
or "We have never done this before" mentallity among my church members?
Finally, what are the "signs" of a visitor friendly church?
kid As the
"new kid on the block" I was wondering What is the best way to continue
a Nursing Home Ministry? It sounds odd maybe, but, most of the people
that come have been a Christian for longer than I have been alive.
I find it difficult to speak on sermons that are pertinet to them in a
way that make them seem relavent to them. Any suggestion would be
greatly appreciated because I would really hate for this ministry to stop.
wants you to work with as
well. Be patient - you one day will be old too. and be sure
to remember not
to be the way you don't
want them to be when you get there.
david
7/30/99 In about a week we will have our first VBS (Vacation
Bible School)in about 3 years. Would you pray for our church and the mission
team that is coming to do VBS for us. I am praying for lives to be
eternally changed that week (Aug. 9-13); not just children but also adults.
Also, we are planning on have a Revival Sept. 26-29, 1999. I am praying
that revival will come long before the services do, but if it does not
that this will rekindle a flame with in the church. Do you have any
suggestions to
help encourage that?
upstate spouse
8/1/99 Help! I'm seeking friendship/support of other pastor's
spouses who find the role hard at times. I love our church and community,
and our marriage is rock-solid, thanks be to God. But I struggle
with trying to balance my desire to do God's work with my desire to be
a private citizen, just a spouse and mom with two active young kids. I
know we don't get time off from being a Christian, but I feel our family
is on display 24 / 7. I need to know I'm not alone in this.
Dorothy I am
seeking material on clergy/vestry/board evaluation. Anyone know of
any resources available on the the internet? Need response asap (today,
if possible - Thurs., 8/26
Pastor Ed I've
been trying to write a proposal to solicite funds for sponsoring our ministry.
I need a sample outline that I could use or I need to know if there is
a resource on line that can assist me in
developing my proposal.
Thanks for your anticipated help.
Aaron Hello
-My older brother and I began a church a few years ago. He was the
Sr. Pastor and I the elder who did lots of beind the scene work. My brother
and his famiy were killed a few months ago and I have become the Sr. Pastor
--believing and knowing this is God's will for our church. However, --you
would not believe the chaoes that has followed. People leaving angry or
constantly hearing "that's not what your brother would do!" These
people only knew my brother 2 years --I've known him a lifetime
--we were bestfriends.
I am very weary from this and want to implement changes -but know what
flak I would receive --even though they are changes the both of us were
planning on before the accident. Any insight or advice??
Dave I love
illistrated messages the ones a peoson acts out I am looking for new messages
that one peoson or just a few can do. If you have any post me or if you
know were I can get some do hte same thank you
kypastor Just
a simple question... How does a pastor know when God is through with him
at the present church he is pastoring?
Pastor Matt We
had John Jacobs and the Power Team in our church!! Man were they a real
blessing to our community!! 317 first time salvations!! Can you say praise
God!! Next we are going to have Heavens Gates and Hell's Flames. In the
past 10 years we have led 11,000 people to Jesus Christ! However we are
still looking for new and better ways to be fishers of men!! So please
tell me what is working for you!!?? I am always looking for new ways to
win the lost!! God bless you!
PASTOR S RAVI i
am from trinidad island here in the caribbean.we are a church that is growing
slowly, can you advise us how to grow faster thank you
knowing and seeing the spiritual
growth in the congregation, it is all in his season. I like to hold
on to Proverbs 3:5-6. God bless.
P W How do
pastor's deal with an affair that nobody knows about but you, your secretary
whom you've had the affair with, and your wife? You've repented befor God,
and nothing's going on, but there's still an
unaddressed strain in your
wife's relationship with the secretary and yourself. the church is moving
along well, and you really mean business now with God, but this tension
still exists. please advise!
Pastor Nathaneal I
was just wondering if there are any pastors out there from the New York
City area that wouldn't mind fellowshiping with other pastors. No strings
attached, but plain ole fellowshiping. Lets help one another!
Please respond to Rock Dove Publications.
Greg I'm looking
for statistics and information about pastors relating to: the value
of long term pastorates over short term regarding church growth; in church
fundraising for building programs, what kind of participation did they
get and what "member" base (active prospects, those who had ever visited
church, etc.) did they try to get pledges from; the role of the eldership
to support the pastor; and any statistics regarding volunteer participation
in a church.
flint Please
pray for clarity of vision on my part as I consider accepting my first
pastorate as a Director of Christian Education. I have been waiting for
some time for God's tap on my shoulder to my first ministry, and was wondering
what it would be. There are many things about this situation that make
it difficult to accept (the relative poverty of the church, and their long-term
inactivity). They are asking for a lot of hours over several days a week,
but only want to pay part-time salary. They are also assuming that my professional
expertise in other non-ministry areas would be made available as part of
my job. It is a situation to which I could bring many valuable skills and
experiences, and could be a good fit. I would have to find other part time
work to support my family of five. It will also mean leaving the church
that my wife and I have attended all our married life. My best friend
and I will be visiting there and praying about it Sunday night. If you
would like to contact me privately, you may request my email address from
the webmaster here. I need to minister. If this is not the place, I need
to start a ministry of my own where I live. Thank you all. I have
peace, but need wisdom and clarity of vision in this respect.
Pastor John I
am a DMin student doing a project in the area of caring for pastors and
their families. Wishing to train churches in that responsibility. Including
areas such as finances, ministry to them, care
in crisis, appreciation,
etc. If you have any ideas for resources both personal or material I would
appreciate it. Thanks.
Bud in Ohio Some
ways to reach people around Christmas time is through the parades.
Simply make out cards or christmas tracts and pass them out. People
are so responsive to getting a christmas card. My wife and I have a parade
ministry in Ohio. We have received mail from across the U.S.A. With
responses from our local parades.
Paul in Duluth Attention
Innovative Sports Enthusiasts: IF you were to hold a church based
Super Bowl Party, what aspects of ministry would you include? [The
question is wide open because I want to know every kind of idea that you
have.] Have you ever tried a church based Super Bowl Party?
What was successful? What wasn't? Does anyone know of any 'football'
types of web sites with a Christian emphasis? e.g., Christian athletes?
Please respond ASAP?
Allen I have
a parishioner who is very kind and is married with three children in the
8 - 14 age range.
She is active in church,
sensitive to needs and feelings of others,ect. She e-mails me between
1 to 3 times a month usually with compliments about a sermon, how it helped
her, or thanking me for something. She recently e-mailed me saying
that she believes she has overdone it and will restrict e-mailing from
now on. How would you respond to her? Has anyone else had parishioners
who frequently e-mail?
Curious future pastor
I'm planning on being a pastor when I get out of the airforce/army/navy
(I haven't decided yet) I have to do a report on the job we want when we
"grow up," and I needed to know how much on average a pastoral career will
pay. Please respond quickly.
Pastor Praise I bring you greeting from CT. I have been running for about a year or so since the Lord has called
me to open and Pastor a church. I have answered the call hallelujah. I will be opening up a church in Lawrence, MA Please
keep me in your prayers! Is there any advise that you can give me as seasoned men/women of GOD? I am talking from
opening up a church you name it! Please email me if you can.
pen2 just a question! how do all of you deal with the pressures of pastoring on a day in day out bases? i've been
in the ministry for 20 years, pastored three chucrhes and have been at the present one six years. lately the demands have
increased on me, as the church has grown.
JFH With the overwhelming amount of people just living together in today's society, I am finding it a little
difficult when it comes to counseling these couples that now want to get married. Does anyone know of any material out there
that is solely directed towards ministering to this situation. I would appreciate any help. I pastor a small inner city church, that
gets quite a few request for this, and I will not perform any marriages without counseling sessions. I do my best in ministering
with the traditional material but seek help in this area. Thank You!
Red I have a burning question that I have not been able to find the answer too. For years now, our
congregation has held Pastor & Wife's Appreciation Services. During this time of the year, a platform is put out, 2 French
Provincial chairs are set on the platform and an array of lavish decorations are put out. Various churches are invited to
"fellowship" with us and each church brings a minimum of $350.00. Each ministry in the church is asked to "represent" with a
minimum of $1000.00. Now, while I am very much aware of giving honor to whom honor is due, please tell me where is is
found scripturally that we MUST do this. I'm not trying to be funny nor am I trying to start any confusion, I would just like to
be sure we're doing what the BIBLE tells us to do and not just following "ism's" or traditions. Will anybody help me clear up
my confusion?
should a pastor's wife be an officer in the church? What about being a trustee of finanical secretary?
George I am in my sixties, have served the Lord faithfully since I came to know Him. I am still bright, sharp,
and energetic. I resigned from my last church almost a year ago, because we had a subtle controller who also is mentally ill, he
has an M.Div.but served a tiny churh for about 6 months, and he is not in the ministry at all. He drew a group of people around
him,and they were his followers. I did not know when I took the position that he had this problem. He is two people, bi-polar,
I think and so do others. The group that followed him, did not see his violent side, which manifested itself only when he was
alone with the Elders. On numerous occasions, he drew back his fist in a meeting, and had to be restrained. He would interrupt
my sermons, by taking over, even while guests were there. We tried to get him help, but he refused, and instead, he resigned
from the Elder Board. Then he began to blame the elders, and split the church, because no one else saw him as we did. We
also found out that he had been in a psychiatric ward, and on meds. Two medical doctors told me that I had to resign, my
blood pressure was 220/120 and in the range for a heart attack or stroke. Now, I do not have a pastoral position. When I
send someone my resume, they indicate that they are looking for someone younger. My wife and I are really hurting financially
because of this. Churches seem to cut us off, when we can still do a good job for the Lord and the church. I am desperate and
would ask if anyone out there has some wisdom, or know of any openings that would consider me. I don't have to be a Senior
Pastor, I would be happy in an Associate's position, or a small church that could pay me something.....PLEASE contact me if
you can offer some help, or counsel. I can't live on what little I am presently receiving. God Bless any of you who can direct
me to a ministry. I don't believe in retirement. I'm willing and want to serve the Lord. I have the gift of evangelism, and
discipleship. Thank you all for reading this posting, and blessings be yours.
Want to encourage I am an elder in our church. Our pastor is one of the most well loved, gifted and anointed
leaders in our area. Everywhere he goes, people are blessed, He's humble and a true servant. Places where he ministers leave
people in awe and he always gives all the glory back to God. But no matter how many tell him how anointed he is, he can't see
it, and always after ministering, he feels he hasn't made an impact, no matter what those close to him say, he feels it's just that
they are being kind. He really wants to be a blessing and he is. How can I encourage him? and does this happen to alot of
leaders?
Pastor john I AM STARTING A CHURCH IN SAN FRANCISCO AND THE CALLED ME IN
FULLTIME MINISTRY I AM PRAYING FOR PARTNER AND SUPPORTER IN THE MINISTRY. WE JUST OPEN
HOMELESS MINISTRY ,YOUTH AND SENIOR MINISTRY PLS PRAY FOR ME I AM INDEPENDENT
CHURCH
Asst. Pastor Please help me. I recently took an non-salaried asst. pastor position at an urban church. My wife
and are both very faithful members and contribute much in terms of financial and spiritual support to the pastor and his wife. I
have nobody to discuss ministry issues with besides my wife and two other preacher friends. I feel that the pastor does not
trust, but yet he has me in several key positions at his church. My wife and I love the Lord and our church family. But we have
been publicly embarrassed and ridicule by remarks the pastor supposedly made about us to his carnal minded friends. For
years the pastor has been accused of lust by several women who don't know each other. He often publicly jokes about not
having time to have a girlfriend. Please write to encourage me. I don't want these abused women's blood on my hands.
David I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS: 1ST.... I AM 24 YRS OF AGE, I KNOW GOD CALLED ME TO BE A PASTOR. I HAVE HOWEVER, TRYED TO RUN AWAY FROM THE CALLING 3 TIMES. I ACCEPTED THE CALLING ABOUT 1 1/2 YEARS AGO. MY FATHER WAS A BIVOCATIONAL PASTOR,AND I KNEW WHAT I WAS TO EXPECT AND THAT IS WHY I RAN FROM MY CALLING( I DID NOT WANT MY KIDS AND MY WIFE TO LIVE THAT LIFE) THE LORD HAS WORKED IN ME, AND ALL I DESIRE IS TO DO WHAT GOD WANTS ME TO DO. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS: IS IT NORMAL, NOT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO WHEN HE CALLS YOU? ( YOU SEE I DID NOT KNOW GOD CALLED ME TO BE A PASTOR, ALLTHOUGH I DID KNOW THE LORD WANTED ME TO PREACH)
2ND... I JUST LOST MY JOB, AND AM NOW ABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE. THIS WILL HELP ME COMPLETING MY ASSOCIATES IN PASTORAL THEOLOGY AND ALSO GET AN ASSOCIATES IN SOCIAL SERVICES. MY BILL ARE ALL BUT GONE, AND I CAN MANAGE MY FINACES ON VERY LITTLE INCOME. I BEILVIE THAT EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A RESON AND I BELIVE THE LORD MIGHT WANT ME TO GET MORE EXPERINCE PREACHING...BUT WERE CAN I GO TO FILL IN FOR OTHER PREACHERS IN MY AREA....I LIVE IN SOUTHERN IL, IN A VERY SMALL TOWN. I HAVE PRAYED ABOUT THIS ALOT, AND I DONT BEILVE THE LORD WANTS ME TO BE A PASTOR JUST YET. I WOULD LIKE TO FILL IN AT DIFFRENT CHURCHES, IF NEEDED. HOW CAN I GO AND OFFER MY SELF TO OTHER CHURCHES?
Pastor Godwin God is good! Kindly pray for our ministry here in India. At this time I ask you to pray
for us to have church building. The hall that we rented for a year the owner asking us to
vacate in a month time. Kindly pray that God may open a door for us. Thank you and God Bless
pastor terry dear pastor i am a outreach pastor I reach out to the men in prison and have a outreach for
aftercare, the reason Iam in this ministry is I was in prison for 30 years of my life. christians do not accept me or this ministry.
we are trying to get a church built and can not get any support. the bible says i was in prison and you visited me. we are a
church with 30 to 20 one week to 10 the next week. we have been in ministry for 15 years. could you direct me to asupport g
roup for diection and guidence. i have been evangelizeing for 10 year and feal acall to open a church and a home for the ones
on the street and prison. god bless
Pastor Johnson I have been an associate/assistant pastor for 15 years. One year ago I was sent to pastor a
dying church. I have 17 members, of those maybe 10 show up on Sundays. In the past year my wife and I have gained
respect in our small community not only the religious community but civic as well. Our problem is of the numerous people that
go out of their way to tell us how much they think of us they do not come to our church. Many of our former members have
gone to another denomination that provides more programs for their children. We would love to have more activities in our
church but without the commitment of our church family to bring children/grandchildren we do not know how to get started.
If anyone has been in this situation please help! We want to start an adult & childrens choir and bible based programs for
children.
Christie My question is... I have been in ministry for a year and have had one woman upset and not speaking to
me over something she misinterpreted in Bible Study and another woman upset and not speaking to me over a room
assignment at a retreat. This has caused me great grief as I am a people pleaser and have profusely tried to make amends with
these women only feeling that I am digging a bigger hole. Is this common in ministry? or is it possible that the Lord is trying to
move me out of ministry. How do we ever know for sure?
Lilo Our church would like to start a Kids Soup Kitchen. Does anyone have ideas on how to start one? We
want to start small and then take gradual steps. We also started a Pastor's wife support group we meet every three months.
Any ideas on how to keep the group interesting? Please email me if you have nay ideas. Please do not post me email address.
natasha Looking for practical ideas and tips on creating a support network for the pastors in our church - I'm not a pastor myself - just a member of the church, but want to care for the pastors in a practical way. We are a very young church with young members as well. Any ideas or help would be appreciated.
REV. GOOD EVENING! THIS IS A QUESTION. I,M A PASTOR OF A SMALL CHURCH AND I
HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT MY WIFE IS NOT HAPPY
THERE AND HAS NOT BEEN FOR A LONG TIME HER UNHAPPINESS IS STARTING TO REALLY AFFECT
ME MY THOUGHTS AND MY MESSAGES ON SUNDAY'S I KNOW THAT THIS IS WHERE GOD WANT'S ME
BUT SHE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. ALL SHE SEES IS ALL THE MEAN THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE
DONE AND TO ME AND HER. STARTING THIS YEAR MY WIFE CRIES ALL SAT AND SUNDAY DURNING
SUNDAY SCHOOL AND SERVICE AND I HATE TO SEE HER LIKE THIS EACH WEEK IT GETS A LITTLE
WORSE. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE HER WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 17 YEARS SHE MY LIFE BUT AT THE SAME
TIME I STAY AND DO WHAT GOD TELLS ME. PLEASE BROTHERS IN CHRIST OFFER ME
ENCOURAGEMENT IF YOU CAN. THANKS
Murray Help, I am a Godfearing, Rhema graduate pastoring a church We started. I think I've got the people
coming right along and then several times many have left. The charismatic way of authority is so different. How have you been
able to keep feelings good and succeed?
Dr. Pastor's wife I am not a pastor but the new wife of one. I am also a physician and am having great difficulty
concerning the appointment process in the United Methodist Church. I'm finding out more and more that those responsible for
appointments do not seem to consider that often spouses have their own ministries as well. Has anyone else experienced this?
In my case, I am in a very specialized field of medicine that requires practice near a large medical center. Should my ministry
have to be sacrificed so that my husband can serve in a church far away from these places? I personally don't think so. We
have found few people in the process sensitive to this issue. I know of a married couple, both pastors, in New Jersey. When
the wife got a position as the Dean of a seminary, her husband was appointed in an entirely different conference, several hours away!
I feel that in the future, this will only become more of a problem as most pastor's spouses will also work outside the home and
many will be young professionals. Probably many denominations will need a wake-up call. Any thoughts?